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N.H. Fish and Game Commission -- 2004 Meeting Minutes

Meeting minutes are posted here as they become available.

NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
DECEMBER 15, 2004
FISH AND GAME HEADQUARTERS, 11 HAZEN DRIVE, CONCORD, NH 0330

Commissioners Present: W. Morse, S. Guaraldi, R. Phillipson, E. Hatch, N. Russell, T. Tichy, and S. Nottonson.

Commissioners Absent: D. Clarke, G. Normandeau

Executive Director Perry - present

Commissioner Chair Tichy called the meeting to order at 1:08 p.m and asked the audience to join in the pledge of allegiance. Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that the public is entitled to attend all Commission meetings and when recognized by the Chairman, the public may speak on any item on the agenda.

ACTION ITEMS:
1. Commissioner Hatch moved to approve the November Commission Minutes as written and Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

At this time, Commissioner Tichy announced that former Rockingham County Commissioner Douglas Ross was in attendance at the meeting. Commissioner Tichy read aloud and presented Doug with a resolution honoring him for his efforts during his tenure on the Fish and Game Commission. The resolution read as follows:

Whereas, Douglas Ross served the citizens of New Hampshire and Rockingham County on the Fish and Game Commission for 5 years, participating on the Policy and Legislative Committees with great passion, dignity and dedication; and

Whereas, under his leadership the Policy Subcommittee of the Commission undertook a significant project to review and revise the Commission Handbook; and

Whereas, he was devoted to a fair and reasoned approach to the Commission's responsibilities, demonstrated by his willingness to listen to the perspectives of sportsmen and women within the context of the science of wildlife management; and

Whereas, the Commission's connection to landowners, municipalities and agriculturalists was improved with innovative recognition programs, attendance at local meetings concerning the value of hunting and establishment of a special subcommittee on agriculture;

Now, Therefore Be It Resolved, that the New Hampshire Fish and Game Commission hereby honors and congratulates Douglas Ross on his retirement from service as Rockingham County Fish and Game Commissioner.

Be It Further Resolved that the Fish and Game Department and Commission hereby expresses its sincere gratitude to Douglas Ross for his contributions to wildlife conservation and wishes him many years of enjoyment in New Hampshire's great outdoors.

Unanimously adopted by the New Hampshire Fish and Game Commission this twentieth day of October, Two Thousand and Four.
_________________________
Theodore A. Tichy, Chairman
NH Fish and Game Commission
__________________________
Lee E. Perry, Executive Director
NH Fish and Game Department

Commissioner Commissioner Tichy, on behalf of the Commission, stated that former Commissioner Ross provided a great deal of service to the Commission and as a token of their appreciation presented Doug with a few gifts. Doug stated that it was a pleasure serving on the Commission with such a good group of individuals and further stated, "Fish and Game is a great Department".

2. Commissioner Phillipson moved to approve the expenditure of $1,875.00 from the Fisheries Habitat Account in order to cover the cost of continuing a Joint Funding Agreement with the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) for the operation of continuous water temperature monitors at two stream flow gages on the upper Connecticut River and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

3. Charlie Bridges, Habitat & Diversity Coordinator, announced that the White Mountain National Forest has been engaged in a Forest Plan Revision for many years and recently released the Draft Environmental Impact Statement, which includes a list of 4 alternatives. Alternative 2 is the Forest Services preferred alternative and would form the basis of the revised forest plan if approved. (See Executive Summary Attached). Much discussion ensued.

Commissioner Tichy commented that even at the high rate of harvest going on in the forest it is still not being overcut by any means. Charlie agreed and commented, "They do good work".

Commissioner Guaraldi questioned if and when the area becomes a designated wilderness area if the Forest Service and the Department are prohibited from conducting habitat management on that land 15 or 20 years down the road. Charlie replied "yes".

Commissioner Nottonson stated that even though the property may be open to hunting, it is really very limited for some individuals. If someone is successful, they may need to evaluate how they are going to retrieve the animal without using equipment or machines, which are prohibited on that property.

Commissioner Phillipson inquired if ATV's would be allowed on the forest property and Charlie replied that ATV's would not be allowed. Commissioner Phillipson stated that he can not understand supporting something that will never allow changes to happen, "forever is a long time". He further stated that as a Commissioner it is their duty to represent ATV riders as well as hunters and fishermen.

Commissioner Tichy inquired whether or not Charlie Bridges felt that the Forest Service could in fact go with a different alternative based on public input received, or did he believe they already have enough input and that is what is being recommended. Charlie responded that the later of the two was probably true, however, he stated that all of the alternatives have to be viable alternatives to be potentially adopted.

Commissioner Tichy stated that it might be in the best interest of the Commission to endorse Alternative 2 with some modifications.

Ron Vars, Board of Director's, NH Wildlife Federation, was in attendance at the meeting and announced that the Wildlife Federation would be sending formal comments to the Forest Service as well regarding the alternative plan. He spoke relative to the Federation's position on the issue and stated that some of the concerns the Commission have are similar to those of the Wildlife Federation. He reported that the Wildlife Federation is against any additional wilderness area as they feel it will not add anything to the equation. He stated that most of the concerns are habitat issues in the National Forest. He stated that the plan does not address declining species such as woodcock and that we do not know what the future will bring. In closing, he reported that the Wildlife Federation is recommending incorporating a management category into the plan, not a wilderness category.

Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, stated that there was good discussion on the issue and that it was a very complex one. He recommended that at this time, rather than take a formal position, he suggested that the Commission request that Director Perry work with the Wildlife Division staff to compile a letter to the Forest Service consisting of the Commission and the Department's comments/concerns relative to the White Mountain National Forest Plan.

Commissioner Nottonson moved that Director Perry work with the Wildlife Division staff to compile a letter to the White Mountain National Forest expressing both the Department and the Commission's interest in the Revision Plan prior to the deadline and Commissioner Hatch seconded. Commissioner Guaraldi stated she wanted to reiterate her strong feelings against limiting the management of the Forest Service and totally eliminating the potential future use of ATVs. She stated "don't take away the opportunity to make that decision as time goes on." The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Morse stated that he does not agree with prohibiting snowmobiles, ATV's, or any other use. In closing, he commented, "things change with time".

Director Perry stated that today it may not be right allowing ATV's on the land, however, technology may change in 10 -15 years and the ATV may be improved to be quieter and cleaner and change how they are looked at all together.

Commissioner Guaraldi thanked Charlie Bridges for an excellent presentation and interpreting the document for the Commission.

LATE ACTION ITEM
1. Commissioner Hatch moved to accept a $4,000 in-kind donation from the Great Bay Stewards for the installation of an educational ropes course by Wingspeed Adventures of Francestown, New Hampshire and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative. John Nelson, Chief, Marine Division, reported that the course is in its final stages of completion and expects it to be ready for use by the Spring of 2005, at which time he will invite the Commission down for a tour and challenge on the ropes.

INFORMATION ITEMS
1. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided the monthly financial statement dated November 30, 2004. (See attached). Dan distributed a handout consisting of the MBNA Affinity Credit Card Program stats.

2. Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, presented a power point presentation to the Commission consisting of possible rule changes for the 2005/2006 hunting and trapping season. Steve reported the following:

* Department is not proposing any changes to the basic season structure for deer, moose,
bear, turkey, and small game.
* Proposing to establish a year round season for wild boar, woodchuck, and red
squirrel.
* Proposing to establish a trapping season for opossum concurrent with the raccoon and the
fox trapping seasons.
* Proposing to establish the minimum muzzleloader caliber for moose and deer at 45
caliber, currently for moose the caliber is 50 and deer is 40.
* Clarify the fisher bag limit by revising the wording.
* Changing the on-line moose application deadline from 4:00 p.m. to midnight.
* Eliminate the requirement to call in a Long Island Deer Kill within 24 hours.
* Consider eliminating the need for a hearing prior to closing a Deer Registration Station,
wording yet to be determined.

In closing, Steve requested that Commissioners forward their comments through the Director's Office as soon as possible, prior to the end of December.

Commissioner Nottonson inquired whether the department is managing for trophy deer, body weight, or both? Steve responded that the basic management for deer in New Hampshire is quality deer, moderate numbers, and a well-distributed age class of bucks and does.

Commissioner Russell stated that he strongly supports the doe permit system, as the one in Maine allows an extra 3,000 permits to be taken in one particular unit.

Commissioner Tichy brought forward some comments on behalf of the north country constituents. He stated that from young successional growth in timber areas there seems to be a higher population of snowshoe hares and bobcats in the area. He requested a proposal to allow houndsmen to run bobcats in January and February, however, not allow any taking. The houndsmen would be required to keep a logbook of when, where, and what they ran and submit the data to the department. The department can use the data to determine if the population in the North Country is increasing or not.

Commissioner Tichy also stated that he would like to see a fall archery turkey season with the northern zones to be included in the season. He stated turkey are doing better than anticipated and does not think it would affect anything.

He further reported that he would like to see the coyote problem addressed by expanding the night hunting of coyote through the summer months and making the season January 1 - September 1.

Commissioner Nottonson reported that he had a conversation with a local farmer recently who also expressed in writing his concern for the crow season to be moved forward having it start in conjunction with initial planting time in hopes of losing alot less of his crop for a few weeks during growing season. Steve Weber responded that the Fish and Wildlife Service regulate crows and that there are no seasons during prime breeding season.

3. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided an update relative to hunting and fishing participation trends in the New England States. Dan reported that he obtained data from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on five states, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Vermont. He provided a chart entitled "License Certifications For New England" to the Commission. The chart indicated that over a ten-year period that there has been a slight decrease in hunting participation and that 1997 was the peak year for fishing participation. (See attached chart.)

At this time, Commissioner Hatch moved to have the 2005 Commission Meetings on the third Wednesday of every month at 1:00 p.m. and Commissioner Nottonson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS
POLICY COMMITTEE: Commissioner Clarke, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, R. Phillipson, and S. Nottonson. Commissioner Nottonson reported on behalf of Commissioner Clarke. He reported that the hunting digest suggestions have been submitted to the Director and staff for review. Commissioner Nottonson requested that the Commission be invited to participate in a discussion with staff regarding the changes.

He spoke relative to an article "Free riders, free hunters"...The article was forwarded to the Policy Committee and will be meeting again in the near future.

LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Commissioner Guaraldi, Chair; Commissioners N. Russell, E. Hatch, G. Normandeau, and W. Morse. Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee met the morning of the Commission meeting and reviewed the short titles of the LSR's. She reported that the committee is continuing to work together and will be having another meeting in the near future. Commissioner Guaraldi stated, "It's a great working committee". She further reported that Sandy Falicon is doing her usual outstanding job in assisting the committee.

ISSUES IN THE 21ST CENTURY: Commissioner Phillipson, Chair: Commissioner Clarke, Tichy, and Normandeau. Commissioner Phillipson reported that there were no new issues, therefore, no meeting.

RIVERS COMMITTEE: Commissioner Morse; Commissioner Morse reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

LAKES COMMITTEE: Commissioner Guaraldi; Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee is working to develop procedures for state surplus land to be brought before the Lakes Committee for review.

AWARDS COMMITTEE: Commissioner Tichy, and Hatch. Department staff: D. Preve, J. Stokes, and M. Garabedian. Commissioner Tichy reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

REVENUE COMMITTEE: Commissioner Nottonson, Chair; Commissioners Morse, Guaraldi, and Hatch. Commissioner Nottonson reported that the committee will be providing the Department with input in the near future regarding the establishment of revenue goals.

COMMISSIONERS REPORTS
Commissioner Russell inquired as to obtaining a breakdown of archery and muzzleloader by towns. Steve Weber replied that there is the extensive annual Harvest Summary that provides that information in detail. In addition, Commissioner Russell inquired as to why the Vermont deer kill was down so drastically. Steve replied that he could not answer for them, however, he received numerous reports of very low activity for a long period of time.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Perry reported that Fred Toll, Councilman for the City of Laconia suddenly passed away from diabetic complications. He reported that Fred was working rather closely on the Winninsquam Access project with the department.

He spoke relative to the decision not to produce the 2005 Wildlife Calendars and stated that it was simply a budgetary decision as the $25,000 necessary to produce the calendar wasn't there. He stated that they are a popular item and reported that many people from around the state have been inquiring about them. He stated that he would look into other ways to pay for the production costs in the future.

Director Perry reported that there is a issue in Plymouth, at the Baker River access site. After installing the access site, the public voiced concerns regarding the design and it's safety. The selectmen and other officials called and wrote letters of concerns and offered assistance in obtaining a solution for the rebuilding of the access. Director Perry reported that there was a meeting recently to discuss options on how to correct the site and make it something everyone is comfortable with.

He stated that the Region 5 Fisheries Program has been an ongoing issue. Director Perry reported that the department has been working cooperatively with the other states and it appears that the efforts have been worthwhile as The Fish and Wildlife Service has reprogrammed some monies and congress had added additional funding to the Service's budget for FY 2005. He stated that he was unsure of the amount and that he would look into it for further information

In closing, Director Perry reported that he and the Senior Staff recently met with Governor Elect Lynch's Transition Team, which seemed to go well. He stated that they have been very interested in budgets as well as some of the issues we have been facing. Director Perry stated that hopes and believes the department will have a good working relationship with the new administration.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Former Commissioner Doug Ross inquired regarding the Connecticut Lakes Headwaters and the possibility of maintaining some of the valuable mature beech trees for habitat purposes for deer, bear and grouse. Steve Weber replied that he would look into his request.

At this time, 4:11 p.m., Commissioner Guaraldi moved to adjourn and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Respectfully submitted,

Sharon Guaraldi, Secretary

Approved: ________________________ Date: _________________________ Ted Tichy, Chairman

NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
NOVEMBER 17, 2004
FISH AND GAME HEADQUARTERS, 11 HAZEN DRIVE, CONCORD, NH 03301

Commissioners Present: G. Normandeau, W. Morse, S. Guaraldi, R. Phillipson, E. Hatch, D. Clarke, N. Russell, T. Tichy, and S. Nottonson.

Commissioners Absent: none

Executive Director Perry - present

Commissioner Chair Tichy called the meeting to order at 1:15 p.m and ask the audience to join in the pledge of allegiance. Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that the public is entitled to attend all Commission meetings and when recognized by the Chairman, the public may speak on any item on the agenda.

ACTION ITEMS:
1. Commissioner Normandeau moved to approve the October Commission Minutes with the revised expenditure of $6,375.00 vs. $5,875.00, as stated in minutes for Action Item #4, and Commissioner Hatch seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

2a.) Commissioner Normandeau moved to accept the donation of a signed and framed, limited edition First of State Striped Bass print "Shadow" by Victor E. Young, donated by the Coastal Conservation Association, to be utilized as a raffle item for the 2004 participants in the Striped Bass Volunteer Angler Survey and Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

2b.) Commissioner Clarke moved to accept the donation of a granite bench, valued at approximately $1,300, from Mr. Thom Dionne and family in honor of their father Oscar Cyprien Dionne, to be located at Chapman's Landing and Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

3. Commissioner Normandeau moved to approve the proposed interim rules relative to falconry as presented and Commissioner Hatch seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Clarke moved to approve the proposed changes to the wildlife and trapping rules as presented and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Normandeau moved to approve the proposed changes to the marine rules as presented and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

4. Commissioner Nottonson moved to schedule the 2005 Commission Meetings on the third Wednesday of each month, time to be announced, and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

5. Commissioner Tichy read aloud a resolution honoring former Rockingham County Commissioner, Douglas Ross. It read as follows:

Whereas, under his leadership the Policy Subcommittee of the Commission undertook a significant project to review and revise the Commission Handbook; and

Whereas, he continued the tradition of joint liaison meetings in the seacoast area and supported the notion of Commission meetings held at a variety of locations throughout the state to provide opportunities for a greater diversity of constituents to attend and provide their input; and;

Whereas, he was devoted to a fair and reasoned approach to the Commission's responsibilities, demonstrated by his willingness to listen to the perspectives of sportsmen and women within the context of the science of wildlife management; and

At this time, Commissioner Guaraldi moved to accept the above resolution and Commissioner Nottonson seconded. The vote was unanimous

INFORMATION ITEMS
1. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided the monthly financial statement dated October 31, 2004. (See attached). Dan announced that there would be an update on the Affinity Credit Card Program at the December Commission Meeting.

4. (Due to time constraints, Information Item #4 was heard out of sequence.)

Laura Ryder, Supervisor, Aquatic Resource Education Program, gave an overview of the Becoming and Outdoors Woman Program. Laura reported that 2004 is the 10th anniversary of the program and that it is a partnership between the New Hampshire Wildlife Federation and the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department. She reported that the committee consists of Fish and Game staff, Wildlife Federation staff, and volunteers. She provided some history of the program stating that it first started in 1989 at the University of Wisconsin, at Steven's Point, where studies were conducted focusing on why such a low percentage of women were not participating in outdoor activities. She reported that the result was a high level of interest shown, however, there were many barriers perceived by women preventing them from taking part in outdoor activities such as expenses associated with the activity, social pressures, lack of female role-models, and being perceived as a dangerous activity. The program was formed to try to overcome these obstacles and was designed as an introductory program to try to introduce women to various outdoor activities, provide them with some skills, and hope they continue on with what they learned after the program. Laura reported that 40 states and several Canadian Provinces offer the program to date. She stated that New Hampshire has 30 excellent instructors who all volunteer their time each and every workshop, conducting 30 different classes ranging from field dressing big game to kayaking. She further reported that in the course of 10 years, approximately 1800 women have attended a course and the demand still remains high for the fall annual weekend workshop and the winter workshop. She announced that nationally over 20,000 women attend every year. Laura provided results of research conducted by the University of Wisconsin where surveys were sent to 1,412 women. The key finding was that 20% of all women attending a Becoming an Outdoors Woman (BOW) event purchased a hunting license within the past 12 months. She further reported that 48% of Becoming an Outdoors Women alumni purchased a fishing license within the past 12 months. Commissioner Tichy inquired if department staff has the opportunity to attend the program. Laura responded that the department tries to get staff that are interested involved. In closing, Laura reported that the Becoming an Outdoors Women Winter Workshop will be held on February 12th at the Owl Brook Hunter Education Facility in Holderness, New Hampshire, and additional information is available on the department's web page at www.wildlife.state.nh.us. Commissioner Tichy inquired as to Laura's thoughts relative to expanding the program in the future. Laura replied that the program is currently running to capacity, however, stated that she does see room for expansion which will require additional resources in order to make it successful. Commissioner Tichy thanked Laura for an excellent presentation.

At this time, 2:00 p.m., Commissioner Tichy called for a 10-minute recess.

The meeting reconvened at 2:10 p.m.

2. Mark Duda, Director, Responsive Management, provided an overview of the results of the Lapsed Hunter Survey. He stated that the study was conducted to determine the attitudes and motivations of lapsed hunters, including their satisfactions and dissatisfactions with hunting, their constraints and barriers to continued and increased hunting participation, and message themes and programs that will move lapsed to resume hunting in New Hampshire. The study consisted of a telephone survey of resident and non-resident lapsed hunters, who had purchased a New Hampshire hunting license in the past 5 years, however, did not actively hunt in New Hampshire in the 2002 - 2003 or 2003 - 2004 seasons. Mark reported that the study was conducted on a regional basis and that hunters throughout New Hampshire were pleasant to talk with. (9 page summary attached).

3. Sandy Falicon, Legislative/Rules Coordinator, provided an overview on the status of department rulemaking. Sandy reported that next month the Commission would see a text copy of the wildlife management area rules which includes rules for the Owl Brook Hunter Education Facility and the rules in Chapter 800, which contains all the rules on the import, release, and use of wildlife. Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, announced that at next month's Commission meeting he will be asking for comments/suggestions that the Commission would like staff to review and investigate regarding the wildlife rules. He asked that the Commission talk to people, have discussions, and be able to provide their comments/suggestions in time for next month's meeting. Sandy reported that the wildlife control operator rule amendments would be coming before the Commission for comment/review at the December meeting as well.

STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS
POLICY COMMITTEE: Commissioner Clarke, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, R. Phillipson, and S. Nottonson. Commissioner Clarke reported that the committee met the morning of the Commission meeting and the discussion focused on exploring ways for the non-hunting/fishing public to assist in fees for maintaining fish and wildlife populations and state owned lands. He stated that the committee had a few ideas that will be explored further at a later date.

LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Commissioner Guaraldi, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, G. Normandeau, and W. Morse. Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee met on the morning of the Commission meeting and as a result brought 4 brief proposals before the Commission for vote. Commissioner Tichy announced that Commissioner Russell has agreed to join the Legislative Committee in lieu of former Merrimack County Commissioner Jones's resignation from the Commission.

Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support an amendment for leasing department properties and Commissioner Clarke seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the concept of statutory language that would allow the director to condemn wildlife and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the naming of the building at Sandy Point Discover Center for Hugh Gregg and Commissioner Morse Seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support an amendment specifying a fee change for the bear permit and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote carried with 6 in favor and 2 opposed, (E. Hatch and N. Russell). Much discussion took place. Commissioner Hatch stated that he was opposed to the increase, however, proposed a $10.00 license fee for residents and a $20.00 for non-resident. Commissioner Morse stated that he felt the license fees should be increased to be brought up to where other states are in pricing. Commissioner Nottonson suggested that the department determine how good the product is before putting a price on it. Commissioner Philipson stated that he felt the bears of New Hampshire are at least as valuable as deer and pheasant and that the price should be brought up to $16.00 making it equal with deer and pheasant. Director Perry stated he does feel that New Hampshire has good quality bears and that the department should be charging more than it currently is. In closing, Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the next scheduled committee meeting is scheduled for December 15, 2004, at 8:30 a.m., Fish and Game Headquarters, 11 Hazen Drive, Concord, New Hampshire.

ISSUES IN THE 21ST CENTURY: Commissioner Phillipson, Chair: Commissioner Clarke, Tichy, and Normandeau. Commissioner Phillipson reported that there were no new issues, therefore, no meeting.

RIVERS COMMITTEE: Commissioner Morse; Commissioner Morse reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

LAKES COMMITTEE: Commissioner Guaraldi; Commissioner Guaraldi reported that she would be attending the meeting on Friday, November 19, 2004, and would report at the December meeting.

AWARDS COMMITTEE: Commissioner T ichy, and Hatch. Department staff: D. Preve, J. Stokes, and M. Garabedian. Commissioner Tichy reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

REVENUE COMMITTEE: Commissioner Nottonson, Chair; Commissioners Morse, Guaraldi, and Hatch. Commissioner Nottonson reported that the committee is seeing progress. He stated that the committee is reviewing ways to make the hunting digest more user friendly and reported that numerous suggestions have been submitted to him. Commissioner Nottonson thanked Sergeant Bruce Bonnenfant and stated that he was of great assistance and provided some great suggestions/information. In closing, he reported that the committee would be producing a report that will be distributed to the Commission for review and input in the near future.

COMMISSIONERS REPORTS
Commissioner Morse announced that he would be hosting an upcoming liaison meeting at the Derry Fish and Game Club on December 7th, at 7:30 p.m.

Commissioner Hatch reported that Chuck Miner, Land Owner Relations Coordinator, provided an excellent presentation with some new thoughts on land to the Hackle & Tackle Sportsmen's Club with approximately 42 people in attendance. Commissioner Tichy requested that Chuck provide an update to the Commission in the near future.

Commissioner Guaraldi reported that she recently learned that Dartmouth College has a very active Bait and Bullet Club.

Commissioner Phillipson reported that he and Commissioner Morse both received calls from a woman who was concerned about obtaining a list of handgun calibers to verify that her 45 long colt was indeed the same as 45 colt. He suggested making a language change in the hunting digest to clarify any questions. Bill Carney, outdoor writer, suggested that the language be left alone as it could be opening pandora's box and stated that it took a long while to get where we are at.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Perry reported on the status of the Wild Goose site stating that things are moving forward. He reported on discussions with Carol Murray, Commissioner, Department of Transportation, and stated that they are still working to address the best way for access to the site.

Director Perry reported that the Salmon Program has drawn much attention lately. He has received reports indicating that the program should not be a complete loss and appears more promising than in the past.

In addition, Director Perry reported that a hearing was held for John Hardwick earlier in November 2004, and stated that he hopes to make a final decision in the near future.

Director Perry reported that he recently met with other department heads and Governor Elect Lynch who introduced his transition team. Governor Elect Lynch asked for two things from the Department. He asked that the Department provide a synopsis of proposed legislation by the Department and any issues that the Governor's Office should know about that could be coming up within the next six months, such as fishery issues and public access issues.

Director Perry reported that they are in the middle budget reviews and have been advised that Governor Elect Lynch may take the $0 base budget approach to creating a budget for the next biennium and in the interim agencies we instructed to continue as under the direction of Governor Benson. Director Perry stated that some cuts are required in order to balance the budget and will require using some monies from the carrier account to make up the difference.

Director Perry reported that the Revenue Committee asked that he contact the New Hampshire Automobile Dealers Association, which he did, and discussed using some of their informational brochures and boards to get out information relative to fish and wildlife activities. He stated that it was well received and that Dan McLeod, President, New Hampshire Automobile Dealers Association, was going to take the ideas back to the board and get back to Director Perry with their response.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Commissioner Normandeau moved to adjourn at 4:07 p.m. and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Respectfully submitted,

Sharon Guaraldi, Secretary

Approved: ________________________ Date: _________________________ Ted Tichy, Chairman

NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
OCTOBER 20, 2004
FISH AND GAME HEADQUARTERS, 11 HAZEN DRIVE, CONCORD, NH 03301

Commissioners Present: G. Normandeau, W. Morse, J. Jones S. Guaraldi, R. Phillipson, E. Hatch, D. Clarke, N. Russell, T. Tichy, and S. Nottonson.

Commissioners Absent: all present

Executive Director Perry - present

Commission Chair Tichy called the meeting to order at 1:05 p.m. Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that the public is entitled to attend all Commission meetings and when recognized by the Chairman, the public may speak on any item on the agenda.

ACTION ITEMS:
1. Commissioner Morse moved to approve the September Commission Minutes as written and Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

2. Commissioner Hatch moved to approve action items 2 (a) - 2 (e), to be utilized by the Owl Brook Hunter Education Training Facility in Holderness, New Hampshire, and Commissioner Clarke seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative. Commissioner Tichy, on behalf of the Commission, thanked all of the donors for their generous contributions.

a) In-kind donation of $1,310.00 from Dwight Pennell, Center Tuftonboro.
b) In-kind donation of $1,013.95 from Steve Bennett and Karola Owen of Epsom.
c) In kind donation of $512.00 from Pennell Tent Rentals of Center Tuftonboro.
d) Donation of labor from the New Hampshire Trappers Association for the
construction of old time trappers cabin with displays, valued at approximately
$2,922.00.
e) Donation of a fur kit from the New Hampshire Trappers Association, valued at
approximately $685.00.

3. Commissioner Normandeau moved to accept the donation of miscellaneous fishing equipment from Charles Caldwell, valued at approximately $335.00, to be utilized by the "Let's Go Fishing Program", and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

4. Commissioner Phillipson moved to approve the expenditure of $5,875.00 from the Wildlife Habitat Account and WCRP funds to purchase a conservation easement on 201 acres in Effingham, New Hampshire, and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative. Much discussion ensued. Commissioner Clarke inquired as to what the restrictions would be on this parcel. Charlie Bridges, Habitat and Diversity Coordinator, reported that it is a standard easement allowing no construction of buildings on the property, no ATV's, and no gravel excavation. Charlie further reported that the Wildlife Habitat Account has a balance of approximately $200,000 - $250,000.

INFORMATION ITEMS
1. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided the monthly financial statement dated September 30, 2004. Dan stated that things are on course with last month and that there were no supplemental appropriations to report.

2. Sandy Falicon, Legislative/Rules Coordinator, provided an overview of the status of regulatory matters relative to overall timetable; draft initial proposal for guides licensing; NOTICE forms for furbearer trapping methods, and wildlife rules.

John Nelson, Chief, Marine Division, provided an overview of the upcoming proceedings for rulemaking for marine. John reported that there are some housekeeping items associated with the Executive Director being able to set certain limits on dogfish based on input from the Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Council. In addition, John stated that reporting requirements for harvesters and dealers would be reviewed in the near future.

3. Judy Stokes, Chief, Public Affairs Division, provided an overview on the status of the Lapsed Hunter Survey completed in September, 2004. She reported that Mark Duda, Executive Director, Responsive Management, has been invited to the November Commission Meeting to review the results of the Lapsed Hunter Survey. She reported when hunters were asked why they didn't hunt in New Hampshire, the overwhelming response was that it was very time consuming. Judy stated that there were helpful links on the Department's webpage to access hunter information faster. She reviewed some of the Department's links and pointed out some information the webpage has to offer.

Liza Poinier, Public Affairs Division, discussed the new campaign entitled "Hunt New Hampshire, It's a Whole New Season", located at the top of the Department's web page, www.wildlife.state.nh.us. She reported that the links contain information hunters requested through the survey, for example, where to hunt, giving the public easy links to obtain the data they are looking for to inspire them to get back out in the woods again.

4. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided an update on the Lifetime License Program. Dan reported that to date, approximately 5,300 lifetime licenses have been issued, 4,200 of those being combination licenses for hunting and fishing, 430 hunting only, and approximately 670 fishing only. Dan distributed the lifetime license fee schedule by age structure starting at age 16 and going through age 67. Dan reported that the Insurance Commission determines the fee schedule by license data/fees provided by the Department. Commissioner Normandeau inquired as to how many lifetime licenses were sold in an average year. Dan responded that approximately 63 combination licenses were sold to date, 36 fishing licenses, and 14 hunting licenses.

STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS

POLICY COMMITTEE: Commissioner Clarke, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, R. Phillipson, and S. Nottonson. Commissioner Clarke stated that the committee met the morning of the Commission meeting to discuss habitat improvement and potential marketing schemes. He reported that the committee would meet again on November 17, 2004, prior to the Commission Meeting.

LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Commissioner Guaraldi, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, G. Normandeau, and W. Morse. Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee has two new members, Commissioner Normandeau and Commissioner Hatch. Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee met the morning of the Commission Meeting. She further reported that the committee would meet on November 17, 2004, prior to the Commission Meeting.

Sandy Falicon, Legislative/Rules Coordinator, reviewed Department Legislative Proposals as follows:

1) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the statutory correction to include an amendment that the driver's license requirement should only apply to those obtaining resident licenses, Commissioner Jones seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

2) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the amendment of RSA 214:9, and approve the One Day Fishing License as presented, and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

3) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the concept of increasing the fee for the bear license to cover program costs and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

4) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the removal of references to the waterfowl stamp and treat it as a permit; increase the fee to $8.00, and Commissioner Normandeau seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

5) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the concept of the Director having the ability to promote hunting, fishing and trapping by being able to do such things as reducing license prices or do other promotions that might involve giving licenses away and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

6a) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the amendment of RSA 211:18 relative to search warrants and the inspection of lobster gear and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

6b) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the addition of a penalty for "skimming" to the list of violations for which a person would have to pay a $200 administrative fee and Commissioner Normandeau seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

7) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the addition of language needed for obtaining duplicate registrations for OHRV's and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

8) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the director having regulatory authority that would allow the option of taking additional turkeys in the fall using firearms and to allow the establishment of an application and permit fees, Commissioner Jones seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

9) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support a variety of amendments to drop European from the statute, include coyote and opossum in the definition of furbearer, and to require individuals names on tree stands and Commissioner Jones seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

10) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the amendment of outdated statutes relative to marine and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

11) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to support the inclusion of text for future references relative to lifetime licenses and Commissioner Morse seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

ISSUES IN THE 21ST CENTURY: Commissioner Phillipson, Chair: Commissioner Clarke, Tichy, and Normandeau. Commissioner Phillipson reported that there were no new issues, therefore, no meeting.

RIVERS COMMITTEE: Commissioner Morse; Commissioner Morse reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

LAKES COMMITTEE: Commissioner Guaraldi; Commissioner Guaraldi reported that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

AWARDS COMMITTEE: Commissioners Jones, Tichy, and Hatch. Department staff: D. Preve, J. Stokes, and M. Garabedian. Commissioner Jones stated that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

REVENUE COMMITTEE: Commissioner Nottonson, Chair; Commissioners Morse, Guaraldi, and Hatch. Commissioner Nottonson reported that the Revenue Committee is continuing to communicate by e-mail and are exchanging ideas. He suggested the department make an attempt to invite Massachusetts's residents as well as New Hampshire residents to the Becoming an Outdoors Woman weekend held in September each year. Director Perry stated that there is no objection to exchanging participant lists amongst states. Director Perry reported that he has a draft memorandum of agreement with the Wildlife Federation on his desk for review.

In addition, Commissioner Nottonson suggested utilizing signs to get Department messages out to the public. Commissioner Nottonson suggested that Director Perry meet with the New Hampshire Automobile Dealers Association to discuss possibly utilizing signs to display Department messages. Commissioner Tichy suggested the committee invite Judy Stokes, Chief, Public Affairs Division, and pertinent staff to a meeting to assist in compiling what those messages should be. Commissioner Nottonson suggested possibly displaying a reminder about the youth waterfowl, deer, and turkey hunting days or any other important messages. He further reported that he has been in contact with Ducks Unlimited and they are willing to make some donations for Department programs where applicable. Director Perry suggested that the next step be to meet with a representative from Ducks Unlimited and invite Ed Robinson, Waterfowl Biologist, to sit in on the meeting to obtain some guidelines.

COMMISSIONERS REPORTS
Commissioner Phillipson reported that he has received calls of concern regarding the bear kill and that the State is near or above its projected goal. Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, reported that the kill is slightly over 500, which is higher than expected, however, the department is not overly concerned at this point.

Commissioner Russell reported that he has received calls relative to 4 wheeler trails and where individuals can go to ride. Commissioner Tichy requested that Major Tim Acerno provide a list to Commissioner Russell of locations of trails and if he does not have the information, possibly the Trails Bureau would have that information. In addition, Commissioner Russell reported that he received a call from a constituent regarding the guidelines for obtaining a hunting license, as the individual was not able to purchase a hunting license because he was not a resident of the State for a period of 6 months. He stated that there should be some other guidelines regarding the issue as this could cause the Department to lose revenue.

Commissioner Clarke stated that we have competing uses for land. He stated that the number of ATV's and snowmobiles are expanding at a rapid rate, which is good for the tourism industry and also brings revenue into the Department. He suggested that the Department look at ways on how to better cooperate with riders and enforce regulations so that the standard 10% of people don't ruin it for the other 90%. Commissioner Clarke stated that he intends to invite Major Acerno to the next Policy Committee meeting to discuss the issue.

Commissioner Russell reported that he receives numerous calls at home, the majority being law enforcement calls. He requested that in the hunting digest the Department's main phone number be placed above the Commissioners phone numbers. Commissioner Guaraldi suggested switching pages 2 & 5 in the book in hopes of alleviating some of the confusion. Commissioner Nottonson volunteered the Revenue Committee to review the hunting digest and come up with some suggestions to make it more user friendly and provide that list to the Director. Commissioner Tichy suggested having the Policy Committee review the digest prior to the Revenue Committee reviewing it.

Commissioner Tichy reported that Commissioner Nottonson distributed a free National Rifle Association magazine to all Commissioners relative to public access and paying for public lands and easements. Some of the suggestions in the article address the issue of not having a hunting or fishing license, however, a user permit, and stated that he felt it was a great idea for high use areas.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Perry provided an update on the Region 5 Fisheries Program. He reported that he recently attended 2 meetings, one with the International Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies, and the most recent meeting with the Northeast Directors. He reported that the Wayne MacCallum, Director, Massachusetts Division of Fisheries and Wildlife, gave a legislative committee report stating there is concern at the congressional level and that there may be some measures taken for the 2005 budget to address the fisheries program. It was unanimously decided to write a letter to the Interior Sub-Ccommittee to urge them to try to restore some funding to keep the program running. He stated that if this does not happen we will see significant reductions in the production of salmon. In addition, Director Perry reported that Ecological Services, who handled much of the Nongame work, would face some of the same severe cuts as the fisheries program.

Director Perry reported that he has a meeting with Carol Murray, Commissioner, Department of Transportation on October 21, 2004, to discuss access at Wild Goose. He further reported that he placed a call to the Town of Newbury to request a meeting in the near future to discuss what issues they have in hopes of coming to an agreement. He stated that the Town of Newbury advised him that they do have a consultant to provide them with advise regarding a specific design and to conduct a traffic study to get an idea of how many cars are actually going through town on Rte. 103. Director Perry reported that there currently is a proposal out for an archeological assessment.

Director Perry reported on the status of Lake Winnisquam access. He reported that John Cowan was recently appointed to the Public Water Access Advisory Board. He also reported that the board recently voted to support the Water Street site in Laconia. He stated that the Department is moving forward with some of the assessment work and that the Department of Environmental Services is conducting an environmental hazard assessment on that site. Director Perry reported that the land transfer paperwork is in the works and things are moving along.

Director Perry reported that he received a call from Councilor Raymond Wieczorek stating that there was some concern relative to not having access to the Merrimack River. Director Perry, Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, and Mark Kirouac, Department Engineer, met with one of the selectmen and members of the Conservation Commission Planning Board who seem very interested in a cooperative project to put an access site in that area.

In addition, Director Perry reported that Chuck Miner, Landowner Relations Coordinator, is still very active as far as landowner relations. Chuck recently scheduled a meeting with the New Hampshire Timberland Owners Association to address some concerns. One issue they are concerned about is requiring tree stands to have individuals names and addresses on them. They have run into instances where logging operations that are underway has required loggers to actually cut the tree down and put a card on the stump notifying whomever owns the tree stand of how to retrieve their equipment. The second issue they have is associated with ATV's and them destroying sections of roads requiring excessive and costly road repairs. The Timberland Owners Association is concerned that by this recklessness of private property it will cause lands to be posted. The third issue is related to hunter concentration in the Walpole area throughout the moose season. Discussions are taking place to somehow split the season in some way so there are not large numbers of hunters in the same area at the same time.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Bill Carney, audience member, spoke regarding depredation permits and his concern for the individual's information such as name and addresses to be used in other ways.
On behalf of the Commission, Commissioner Tichy congratulated John Cowan on his recent appointment to the Public Water Access Advisory Board and stated that he would be a great asset to the board

Commissioner Normandeau moved to adjourn at 4:11 p.m. and Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Respectfully submitted,

Sharon Guaraldi, Secretary

Approved: ________________________ Date: _________________________ Ted Tichy, Chairman

NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 15, 2004
FISH AND GAME HEADQUARTERS, 11 HAZEN DRIVE, CONCORD, NH 03301

Commissioners Present: G. Normandeau, W. Morse, J. Jones S. Guaraldi, R. Phillipson, E. Hatch, D. Clarke, N. Russell, T. Tichy, and S. Nottonson.

Commissioners Absent: all present

Executive Director Perry - present

Commission Chair Tichy called the meeting to order at 9:31a.m. Commissioner Tichy opened the meeting with the pledge of allegiance and asked the audience to remain standing for a moment of silence to honor the passing of former Senator George Disnard. After the moment of silence, Commissioner Clarke spoke of his fond memories of the Senator and how they met and became friendly. He stated what he remembers most of George was that he was a true gentleman and public servant. He further stated "we have lost a real friend".

Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that the public is entitled to attend all Commission meetings and when recognized by the Chairman, the public may speak on any item on the agenda.

At this time, 9:37 a.m., Commissioner Hatch moved to go into a Non-Public Session and Commissioner Clarke seconded. A poll was taken of all Commissioners present; Commissioners Clarke, Phillipson, Normandeau, Jones, Hatch, Morse, Nottonson, Russell, Guaraldi, and Tichy all voted "yes" to enter into a Non-Public Session. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Hatch moved to come out of a Non-Public Session at 10:42 a.m., and Commissioner Jones seconded. A poll was taken of all Commissioners. Commissioners Clarke, Phillipson, Normandeau, Jones, Hatch, Morse, Nottonson, Russell, Guaraldi, and Tichy all voted "yes" to come out of Non-Public Session. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

ACTION ITEMS:
1. Commissioner Hatch moved to approve the August Commission Minutes as written and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

2. Commissioner Normandeau moved to accept the donation of a Thompson/Center Omega muzzleloading rifle, estimated value of $425.00, from Thompson Center Arms Co., Inc., and a Ruger M77R MKII centerfire rifle, with an estimated value of $695.00, from Sturm, Ruger and Co., Inc., Commissioner Guaraldi seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, stated that both organizations have been very supportive of the deer hunter mail survey, a valuable tool used in assessing big game abundance and deer hunter effort. He reported that this is the 13th year the Department has conducted the survey, in addition to the being the 13th year Thompson Center Arms and Sturm, Ruger, and Company have generously donated firearms for prizes in the survey. Commissioner Tichy inquired whether there is any language on the deer hunter survey indicating that there will be a drawing from the returned cards. Steve responded that the cover letter that gets distributed with the survey materials does mention the survey. In addition, Commissioner Tichy inquired if the two organizations have been recognized for all their support over the years. Steve reported that on the 10th anniversary of the survey both organizations were invited to headquarters and presented with plaques. He stated that Thompson Center has their plaque on display in the lobby of their facility and wasn't sure if Sturm, Ruger and Company did the same or not. Commissioner Phillipson commented that it was very gracious of Thompson Center and Sturm Ruger to annually provide these donations.

3. a.) Commissioner Guaraldi moved to go forward with rule changes relative to bear baiting sites as presented and Commissioner Russell seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

b.) Commissioner Phillipson moved to go forward with rule changes to clarify that the state of residency for purposes of the moose lottery application process shall be the person's state of residence, pursuant to RSA 207:1 XXIII, at the deadline date for moose lottery applications, and Commissioner Hatch seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

c.) Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, presented the request to go forward with rule changes relative to removing the requirement to attend a moose seminar. In place of the mandatory requirement, the Department plans to offer two seminars on a voluntary basis. Each permittee and subpermittee will be asked to sign and return a signed statement that they have read and understand the current year's moose rules by a certain deadline.

Commissioner Nottonson stated that he felt the seminar he attended a few years ago provided very valuable information to hunters. He further suggested having the data from the seminar transferred onto a CD and made available to moose hunters as another method of receiving the information. Steve Weber responded that was exactly the department's intent.

Commissioner Jones inquired as to the reasoning behind this change and stated that he has heard nothing but positive comments regarding moose seminars. Steve responded that a large number of people have attended a seminar as either a permittee or a subpermittee previously and are complaining as to it's repetitiveness. He reported that law enforcement is satisfied with the sign off statement of the hunters as it indicates that they are aware of the the current moose rules and will abide by them. Further, Commissioner Jones suggested implementing a system that if a hunter is selected for a second time that they have the option to sign a waiver in lieu of attending another seminar, stating that he has received the seminar information previously and understands the current moose rules.

Commissioner Russell started that he agreed with Commissioner Jones and suggested having fewer seminars, perhaps making them larger, however, still having some instead of eliminating them all as they provide crucial information to the hunters.

Commissioner Clarke stated that he shares some of the same concerns as Commissioner Jones and that he would possibly feel better knowing that the information would still be made available to hunter on a CD. He further stated that people seem to have enough paperwork and to be able to sit down and watch something may appeal to some and be more convenient.

Commissioner Morse moved to go forward with rule changes relative to removing the requirement to attend a moose seminar, having two seminars the first year on a voluntary basis, involving the permittee and subpermittee to sign and return a signed statement that they have read and understand the current year's moose rules by a certain deadline and Commissioner Phillipson seconded. The vote carried with 7 in favor and 2 opposed (J. Jones, N. Russell)

LATE ITEM
1. Commissioner Phillipson moved to accept the donation of $225.00 from Andorra Forest to offset the cost of printing signs to limit access by hunters on portions of the property and Commissioner Jones seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Commissioner Nottonson stated that he had one last comment regarding the moose seminar rule change. He suggested formatting the moose seminar cd in such a way that it could be used as a sales tool, welcoming people to New Hampshire and informing them of the moose lottery deadlines, possibly including the various types of licenses that the department offers.

INFORMATION ITEMS
1. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided the monthly financial statement dated August 31, 2004. (See attached)

Commissioner Jones reported that he recently received a call from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, Federal Aid Office, stating that the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department received the best audit in the country. He further stated that this is a huge credit to Randy Curtis, Federal Aid Coordinator, and the other financial people within the department. In closing, on behalf of the entire Commission, Commissioner Jones congratulated staff for their outstanding efforts.

2. Dan Lynch, Assistant Director, provided an update on the Affinity credit card program. He stated that the department is seeing approximately $300.00 on a quarterly basis. He stated that he would provide further information after obtaining a copy of the agreement.

3. Director Perry provided an overview of the newly created Landowner Relations Program. He reported that the issue of current use was discused at length previously amongst the Commission. As a result of those discussions, the Policy Committee recommended that the Department place more emphasis on landowner relations and how the department would be able to maintain public use on these lands that are under current use provisions. He announced that through some reogranization within the department, a Land Resources Bureau has been formed, which the department is still in the process of recruiting a Supervisor for. In addition, Director Perry reported that a new position has been created within the Director's Office entitled Administrator, Landowner Relations Program. Chuck Miner has been fulfilling his new role with a great deal of drive. Chuck has attended numerous Commission liaison meetings, which were well received by the public.

Director Perry also announced that some of the responsibilities of the old Access and Engineering Division have been moved under what was formerly known as the Business Office and created a Support Services Division. Kathy LaBonte, Chief, Support Services, graciously agreed to taking on these additional responsibilities and thing are moving along quite smoothly.

At this time, Chuck provided an overview of what he has been working on to date in this new role. He stated that this is a new phase and he is learning a great deal.

He reported that support for the program is high among hunters, anglers, and landowners. Both the Commission and the department have been complimented for the establishment of the program.

In addition, he reported that over the past month, research has begun on existing programs throughout the country and potential funding sources.

He stated that he has attended several meetings to discuss the program and obtain input on problems and potential solutions. Chuck reported that over the next three months he will be meeting with many groups in order to gather input and insight that will be used in the development of the program as well as to begin developing partnerships.

Chuck stated that in order for the program to be successful, a strong partnership will need to be developed between, the department, hunters, anglers and landowners. From the response seen this far into the program it is apparent that there is a strong interest amongst all of the parties to make this happen.

Commissioner Clarke stated that he was thankful for the establishment of this position. He reiterated how important landowner relations is to the mission of the department. In closing, he stated that he is glad to see some time and resources devoted to landowners.

Commissioner Guaraldi stated that she was fortunate to travel with Chuck and thanked the Director as well as Chuck for getting this off the ground. She reported that she has received many positive comments from sportsmen stating that this is a major improvement within the department. In closing, she thanked the Director for moving forward with the establishment of this position.

Commissioner Phillipson reported that Chuck recently attended a liaision meeting in Keene, in which the auidence showed much interest and thought it was a great program. He further reported that the audience felt it was such an important issue that they suggested in order to obtain more easements, possibly raising the habitat fee to $5.00 if $2.50 went strictly to the use of an easement.

Roger Bellerose, audience member, suggested talking to landowners to differetiate between the casual use of an ATV vs. using an ATV in the act of hunting and fishing.

STANDING COMMITTEE REPORTS

POLICY COMMITTEE: Commissioner Clarke, Chair; Commissioners E. Hatch, R. Phillipson, S. Nottonson and J. Jones. Commissioner Clarke stated that the committee has not met, however, a meeting will be scheduled for the near future.

LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE Commissioner Guaraldi, Chair; Commissioner Morse. Commissioner Guaraldi stated that the committee is working to have an organizational meeting prior to the next Commission Meeting. She stated that it is an important committee and asked that other commissioners think about joining the committee. Commissioner Jones agreed to remain on the committee until his resignation and Commissioner Hatch also agreed to sit on the committee during his duration as a holdover.

ISSUES IN THE 21ST CENTURY: Commissioner Phillipson, Chair: Commissioner Clarke, Tichy, and Normandeau. Commissioner Phillipson reported that there were no new issues, therefore, no meeting.

RIVERS COMMITTEE: Commissioner Jones; Commissioner Jones stated that this is an important committee which requires having a Commissioner who is willing to attend the meetings, approximately 4 meeting per year. He further reported that the committee deals with all the rivers in the state, in addition to important issues that the Commission needs to be involved in. Commissioner Tichy asked the Commission to think about who might be interested in taking his place. Commissioner Normandeau inquired as to what the position entailed. Commissioner Morse stated that he would consider taking over the Commission's role on this committee and would get back to the Chairman as to his decision.

LAKES COMMITTEE: Commissioner Guaraldi; Commissioner Guaraldi reported that the committee visited Lake Sunapee and enjoyed the demonstration on how water quality testing is conducted. She further reported that being on this committee is an educational experience for her. The next meeting is scheduled for Friday, September 17, 2004.

AWARDS COMMITTEE: Commissioners Jones, Tichy, and Hatch. Department staff: D. Preve, J. Stokes, and M. Garabedian. Commissioner Jones stated that there was no meeting, therefore, no report.

COMMISSIONERS REPORTS
Commissioner Nottonson reported that the Revenue Committee is currently communicating by e-mail at the present time, exchanging ideas. He stated that a formal meeting will take place in the near future. In addition, he stated that the committee will have some positive recommendations for next month's meeting. He reported that revenue potential is being reviewed at this point.

Commissioner Guaraldi announced that she recently participated in the Becomming an Outdoor Woman's Program at Rockywold Deep Haven, in Holderness. She reported that 115 women shared some great outdoor opportunities for 3 days and a great time was had by all. She stated that this is an excellent program and staff should be commended for their efforts and dedication.

DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Perry reported that on Saturday, September 25th, the Owl Brook Hunter Education Training Facility will be having a dedication ceremony. He stated that the department is proud of the facility and hopes through this facility to expand hunter education and other outdoor education programs.

Director Perry stated that there has not been much change regarding the Wild Goose site at Lake Sunapee since the last Commission Meeting. He stated that the department has a working draft from the consultant regarding road access and that the department is continuing to work on road access at that location.

He reported that with much cooperation and support, access to Lake Winnisquam seems to coming together. He reported that it appears at this time that lands will be donated by the City of Laconia and the only expense will be to cover the replacement of the storage building on that site. He reported that there appears to be no environmental red flags or issues at the present time and estimates that sometime in early October there should be a concept plan compiled. He further reported that possibly by the Summer of 2005 there could be a ribbon cutting ceremony. He stated that it has been a team effort between the Department of Environmental Services and the Department of Transportation to make this happen.

Further, Director Perry reported that it appears that the department is going to require more money than is budgeted to cover employee benefits as well as retiree benefits during FY'05. Director Perry reported that the shortage will be approximately between $320,000 - $420,000, in addition to anticipated savings to balance the budget and cover all these expenses. Director Perry has asked staff to justify equipment purchases and stated that the department will be looking closely at vacancies, possibly holding off filling for a few months, to attempt to offset some of these expenses. Director Perry reported that the biennial budget is being compiled and that a 2.9 million dollar deficit exists. In order to balance revenue and anticipated operating expenses, we are proposing to cut $1.8 million dollars in operating costs and to cover $1.2 million dollars from cash reserves. He further stated that at this point it will not entail any layoffs in personnel. The department will be eliminating some positions that have been vacant for some time. He reported that the cuts could affect the Department's TV Show if an alternate source of money is not found to cover production costs.

Steve Weber, Chief, Wildlife Division, reported that we are having a normal bear season to date, and on target for the season. He reported that the mast crop is somewhat spotty, however, much better than last year.

CALL TO THE PUBLIC
Roger Bellerose, audience member, suggested advertising as a way of trying to reach out to sportsmen and encourage them to purchase a super sportsmens license.

At this time, 11:50 a.m., Commissioner Clarke moved to adjourn and Commissioner Nottonson seconded. The vote was unanimous in the affirmative.

Respectfully submitted,

Sharon Guaraldi, Secretary

Approved: ________________________ Date: _________________________
Ted Tichy, Chairman

NEW HAMPSHIRE FISH AND GAME COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
AUGUST 25, 2004
FISH AND GAME HEADQUARTERS, 11 HAZEN DRIVE, CONCORD, NH 03301

Commissioners Present: G. Normandeau, W. Morse, S. Guaraldi, R. Phillipson, E. Hatch, D. Clarke, N. Russell, T. Tichy, and S. Nottonson.

Commissioners Absent: J. Jones

Executive Director Perry - present

Commission Chair Tichy called the meeting to order at 9:46 a.m. Commissioner Tichy opened the meeting with the pledge of allegiance and informed the audience that the public is entitled to attend all Commission meetings and when recognized by the Chairman, the public may speak on any item on the agenda. In addition, Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that a license suspension hearing would be first on the agenda and then immediately following the remainder of the agenda would be heard.

ACTION ITEMS:
1. Mr. Hardwick's Attorney, John Cronin, immediately requested a continuance of the license suspension hearing in order to better represent his client allowing adequate time to gather information. Attorney Cronin stated that he received notification from his client at 7:45 p.m. Tuesday evening that the hearing would take place on Wednesday. Commissioner Tichy stated that he had a letter in front of him from the department, to Mr. Hardwick, dated July 6th, informing him that the August 18th license suspension hearing was rescheduled to August 25, 2004, at 9:30 a.m. Commissioner Tichy announced that he would poll the Commission to obtain their feelings toward a continuance. At this time, Assistant Attorney General, Peter Roth, Counsel for the Fish and Game Commission, stated that the motion is worth consideration, however, he understands that there are other parties present who may have an interest in this matter and they should be queried as to their feelings toward a continuance. At this time, Commissioner Tichy requested to hear from the other parties in the audience. Larry Fortin, a hunting partner to the victim, Robert LeJacq, stated that he objected to the continuance and felt the matter should be addressed today.

Commissioner Tichy announced that he would like to go forward since Mr. Hardwick had counsel present. He further stated that if there were a question that Mr. Hardwick's Attorney felt he should not answer today, that the Commission would take that into consideration. Commissioner Tichy informed the audience that testimony would be taken from friends and relatives of the victim and of Mr. Hardwick only. Commissioner Tichy stated that after hearing all the testimony, a decision would be made as to whether or not a ruling would be made today.

Commissioner Tichy questioned Mr. Hardwick as to whether or not he had a statement he would like to make to the Commission at this time. Mr. Hardwick replied "no". Commissioner Tichy asked the Commission if they had any questions for Mr. Hardwick. Commissioner Tichy swore in Mr. Hardwick at this time. Commissioner Nottonson asked Mr. Hardwick if he paid his fine and to explain the details of what he did for the 200 hours of required community service. Mr. Hardwick replied that he painted the church in Francestown, New Hampshire and wrote and read the speech at hunter safety classes. Commissioner Nottonson asked if he had kept a log of his community service, consisting of dates and times of activities. Mr. Hardwick responded that he had kept a log while he was on probation, however, wasn't sure if it was on file with the probation officer or not.

Commissioner Clarke stated it was a difficult decision the Commission had to make relative to a serious accident. He stated what would weigh heavily on his mind is to hear from Mr. Hardwick as to what he has learned from this and what his inner feelings are about what had happened. Attorney Cronin stood and stated "Mr. Hardwick is a simple country kid and is like a fish out of water understanding these questions". He further stated that it is an appropriate question and the Commission should get this information. He suggested trying to keep the questions as simple and straight forward as possible and offered to assist in this process. Commissioner Clarke reworded his question "Basically what have you learned from this and do you think that going forward you can be a responsible bearer of firearms"? Mr. Hardwick responded, "Yes, I have learned that you have to be very responsible and that accidents suck." Mr. Hardwick further stated that you should take your time and have positive target identification. Attorney Cronin asked Mr. Hardwick if he cooperated with Sergeant Sampson relative to the investigation. Mr. Hardwick responded "yes". Attorney Cronin informed the Commission that Mr. Hardwick's felony conviction had been annulled on February 25, 2002. Commissioner Tichy responded that the Commission was not aware of that information and does not possess that documentation. Attorney Cronin submitted a copy of the annulment to the Commission. Commissioner Tichy read the annulment aloud:

CERTIFICATE OF ANNULMENT OF ARREST/CONVICTION AND SENTENCE

The State of New Hampshire
v.
John Hardwick
DOB: 03-12-68
Case #93-S-0318
Offense: Negligent Homicide
Date of Offense: November 16, 1992<